Chuckle. Wait until you see how much work it takes to replace rear derailleur housing! Sell it to me, bet ya cant specially at a respectable 90 keys. I own the Levo SL, and it is the most refined ebike I have ridden so far. I found this beauty as an example: The reviewer weighs 55kgs. This is a real review with details and pros and cons. That rattling feeling comes from one way bearing. Despite the musclier performance, weve had excellent results in terms of range, with the Bosch motor regularly achieving more miles and elevation over EP8. Stay tuned, as well have an Orbea Rise test bike arriving very soon. If you have a problem you can reapair it very quick. Make it 100 mile range, and I'm in. When we see failures like this, it is incumbent on us to find the root cause and, if it is within our control, provide a resolution, reads e*thirteens statement. Recalled but still was delivered with the rattle. But overall EP8 offers more of a quieter and gentler hum than the whine of the E8000 motor, and its also quieter than the Bosch motor too. As they say, power is nothing without control. Weve been living with the Shimano EP8 motor for six months now across three different bikes; the Merida eOne-Sixty, the Polygon Mt Bromo, and the Canyon Spectral:ON. Didn't think I'd ever see that. The Kiox head unit has a nice colour screen with plenty of useful data on it, but were not sold on the magnetic attachment and the fact that the motor wont turn on without the head unit. I've spent some time on this motor and it's one of the first to feel organic in the way it adjusts to the rider's pedaling. The MasterMind TCU head unit on the top tube is also as good as it gets, with a sharp and clear, but unobtrusive display that reduces clutter on the handlebars. That just isn't real world riding though, you just don't spend all your time in boost mode. e*thirteen is at the table with bike brands to find a mutually acceptable solution that first takes care of keeping people on their bikes. Cargo Take the load off and breeze past traffic jams Commuting Upgrade your urban lifestyle Active Get sportier in the city SHIMANO CUES Di2 Our all-new SHIMANO CUES Di2 inspires a more active and sportier lifestyle while making commutes less stressful so you can focus on the road - and the ride. - Numerous battery options, both from Shimano & 3rd parties I'm not an ebike hater - but (you knew it was coming) - I can't ever see myself being able to justify the expense of one and I wouldn't like to risk a second hand one. Currently, I own two e-bikes with a new 2022 Moustache Samedi 26 Fat 4 with the Bosch Motor on its way. An e-Mtb allows me to ride farther, and more often and smile from beginning to end, not just the downhill sections! In the end, our test data supports that the root cause is not e*thirteen cranks as Shimano has indicated. However, when coasting on rough terrain the unloaded system can exhibit a 'NORMAL' clicking sound that may be detectable to the rider. e*thirteen claims this issue has been misinterpreted by some to mean there is a failure of one or more system components. You can't imagine what kind of thought must have gone behind that response? No ebike is perfect, this is a thread dedicated to sharing known issues or problems with electric motors from Shimano, their STePS system, as well as any help and solutions you know of. Ebikes are great as a self shuttle, especially for time limited people. Is this a review for ants? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. What settings you end up will depend on your personal riding style, and your expectations of range and power output. On top of that, you cant tune the Bosch motor like you can with EP8 theres no fancy app, and the stock assist settings arent adjustable what you see is what you get. Mine gets very hot. Would you like to receive offers, updates and events from BikeRadar and its publisher Our Media Ltd (an Immediate Group Company)? if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do, we charge it up to 11. By their own standards of non-assist components, this motor is not worthy of the shimano name. My take away besides the obviously pro/con talking points was the weight of the bike. e*thirteen is one of the biggest OEM suppliers of cranks on electric mountain bikes. Its considerably bulkier than Shimano EP8, dominating the Levos frame profile while also putting limitations on rear wheel clearance. Display integration is still the best on the market, even if it only shows five bars of battery level and could easily integrate some more user-friendly features. You also need a special key to release the battery from the frame, which were not fans of, at least for a mountain bike anyway. He was pretty happy about ANT compatibility. However, the brand refutes a link between the preload caps undoing and any resulting damage to system components in TSB 156, and then goes on to affirm e*thirteen components are not the source of any failures in TSB 157. You still have the three basic assist modes: Eco, Trail and Boost. The Pivot Shuttle, for example, employs a huge 726Wh battery made by a third party company called Darfon. There are a lot of factors that influence range including rider weight, tyre choice, trail conditions, and elevation. Let us know what you find out. That's worse to, because 20kg dead weight doesn't contribute like 20kg of normal, muscle-laden body mass. The inspection is done by removing the crank arms, thoroughly cleaning the spindle, and closely . There are 5 levels of adjustment from Mild to Quick, with the highest setting requiring only a small rotation with light pedal force to engage the motor. Probably more than some rattle. These combinations meet our strict and exacting quality standards. 3. It's significantly more muscle, which was much-needed in order for Shimano to keep . That kind of thing can destroy a company's reputation even if it's not something serious . It doesn't feel good. I'm honestly flabbergasted that people complain about it tbh lol. Smaller:Compared to the previous model, the EP8's volume has been reduced. In the higher settings, the motor will deliver maximum power without you having to pedal very hard at all. Simply enjoy what you are riding and watch the world, I should say, e-bike world, pass you by, as they are here to stay and while they are not perfect they are probably the best and most exciting thing to happen to the bike industry in 50 years! Thats given us plenty of saddle time to compare and contrast the new motor not only with E8000, but also with the latest Bosch Gen 4 motor and the Brose-manufactured 2.2 motor in the new Specialized Levo. The brand told us it was aware of the spindle issue and has been in contact with both Shimano and e*thirteen about it. For a lighter pedal feel than the E8000, the one-way bearing has reduced its rotational resistance, creating a free play. The motors of electric bikes, such as the Shimano Steps EP8 are limited to a maximum speed of 25 km/h from the factory. However, when coasting on rough terrain the unloaded system can exhibit a normal clicking sound that may be detectable to the rider. When the motor applies torque it pushes in one direction and closes the gap, when there is no torque the ring can rock a little. Now, we're not going to be working on the actual. IMO we're still in the pilot phase and have a lot of room for improvement. I have not heard of a recall, so I did some digging. As well as being smaller, lighter and more efficient, the new EP8 drive unit also packs more punch with up to 85Nm of torque, bringing it up to speed with the latest power plants from Bosch, Yamaha and Brose/Specialized. All bikes [have been] assembled with Shimano cranks since 2021 April.. The metallurgic analysis was conducted to discover root cause. @tomdesoals: Yeah, I get that now that bikes have become more silent anything new that makes noise can become annoying. Not the first time Shimano has screwed the pooch with recent launches. Purchased an SC Bullit in march and I now have 520 miles on it. - Strong but very well-tuned power delivery It was one of the most fun bikes to ride. Alex then moved back to the UK and put his vast knowledge of mountain biking to good use by landing a job working for MBUK magazine as features editor. And in terms of backup service and support, the fact that there are far more Shimano dealers than there are Specialized dealers may also be preferable for some riders. Yesterday I drove down south to explore some new trail in Utah. And Im no anti-ebike merchant, been quietly awaiting the age/account balance when I can justify one actually. There is zero stickiness at the pedals that we could detect. Their heckler had complete battery failure, the ship date for a new one is close to the motor ship date. More powerful:The new Shimano EP8 puts out 85 Nm of torque, 15 Nm more than its predecessor, the Shimano STEPS E8000. So that would include rocks, hops, trackstands but also sudden boosts from a standstill. And with brands such as Merida and Canyon making use of internal wiring through the handlebars, the whole arrangement is quite tidy. Our advice is not to rely on the range estimation in the first place. Rattling and lack of update to the battery monitoring is a no go for me, I would just upgrade the battery to the new 620s if i could fit it. My brain constantly struggles with whether 2 bars remaining means I have 21% or 59%I would prefer a continuous power bar or percent. The new motor, called EP8, is 10 percent smaller and is a lot lighter. Aim for a cadence between 70-90 RPM for maximum efficiency and response from the motor. The newly shaped buttons on the EM800-L switch unit provide a nice tactile perch for your thumb to quickly flick between those settings. That is not the case, but all cranks should be checked for proper tightness before riding, and initial installations procedures should be updated, reads TSB 156. Having spoken with other long-term EP8 and Bosch Gen 4 users, it would appear that for many riders its a non-issue. If you aren't climbing steeps and requiring the torque, you would get way longer distance. Don't worry: "Every time you start your pitchfork, it resets into 'no stab' mode. We recommend only Shimano cranks for usage with our drive units. I read a similar story around christmas on an other forum. @tomdesoals: Ah, thanks I get it. Come join the discussion about bike parts, components, deals, performance, modifications, classifieds, trails, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! February 22, 2021. Why don't you just make 10 be the top number and make that fully charged? The cause is due to the difference in design from Shimanos crank, which causes increased stress around the spindle hole.. That makes it tricky to work out how much assistance youll be finishing your ride with. I love the progression of Ebikes! While the increased power certainly grabs most of the headlines, we reckon its the compact form of the Shimano EP8 drive unit that offers the greatest advantage over its competitors. However, you do pay for all that refinement and integration. Thus when I'm carrying a spare battery I can get up to 60 mile rides in, which e-bike or not, is still a hell of a day in the saddle. You can't call an e-bike rider lazy when they try to overtake you making this sound. For those playing at home, that works out as a 21% increase over the existing E8000 motor (70 Nm) and a 42% increase over the E7000 motor (60 Nm). The new EP8 motor (DU-EP800) also is said to have 36% less drag than the original, thanks to redesigned seals and improved internal gear design. Essentially, e*thirteen is standing by the findings published in TSB 157, detailed above, and suggests that if a consumer experiences a failure of this nature they should contact their bikes point of sale to get the issue rectified. To replicate field failures, we had to look outside of the required ISO and EN testing requirements as those tests were passed successfully. - Can we have remaining battery displayed as a percentage please? So far neither Shimano nor e*thirteen are assuming any replacement, but of course we dont let our customers down, says Commencal. They deemed it a warranty and the motor has failed. Though the new EP8 motor is claimed to be more efficient than its predecessor, there is of course more power too. Now well point out here that the Bosch Gen 4 motor exhibits a similar metallic clacking noise, since its internal gear system also employs a clutch. Reading between the lines, we suspect the misinterpretation e*thirteen is referring to is regarding the EP8 bottom bracket axle spindle failure noted in TSB 157. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Durability and ease of maintenence is far more important than power in my world. Still, the performance in the adaptive E-MTB mode is excellent, with smooth and flexible power delivery, and riders wanting plenty of grunt will certainly dig the Bosch motor. People know you're not running some old E8000 or E7000 motor. e*thirteen recommends inspecting Shimano EP8 motor spindles to ensure no cracks are present before riding any EP8 equipped bike again and in doing so have provided a step by step process for doing this with images and instructions below. IMO Shimano bikes are good,but they are 2 steps down compared to Specialized and Bosch. Weve found the first two settings to be too weak for e-MTB use, though conversely the highest setting can feel a little too peaky for some riders. Now, would we like to see Shimano eliminate the noise altogether? Certainly of all the full-power motors weve tested, Shimano EP8 affords the most seamless feel as the power fades in and out around the assistance cutoff. Can they make it swappable with a gear box? That is, spme pretension or a clutch like system. TSB 156 addresses a reported issue where the crank preload end cap can loosen and fall off, eventually causing the pedal cranks to become detached from the bottom-bracket spindle. Repair and maintenance of Bosch, Shimano, Yamaha and Brose eBike motors Repair and maintenance of eBike motors from the following manufacturers: Bosch Active Line, Bosch Active Line Plus, Bosch Cargo Line, Bosch Performance Line and Bosch Performance Line CX For more details on the full range of Bosch motors click here Shimano EP8 is smaller and lightweight It's not just the motor housing that is smaller but also the inner workings of the EP8 motor. This speed may be enough, but some people may find it very frustrating because from 25 km/h they have to make a gigantic effort to follow their teammates since the assistance is cut off or simply because they want to go faster. As mentioned above, the Assistance Character bears the biggest influence on the motors on-trail feel, and dialling this down can make quite a big difference to the amount of range you can get from the battery. Can someone make a bike with 50% - 100% assist? Can't see the equivalent of a ribbed chainstay protector happening. On my e8000, my impression was (now on a Trek Rail w a Bosch gen 4) that if you were at two bars, you were really at one, and if you were at one, youd better be a couple of blocks from home. Seeing if anyone else out there has had problems with their EP8. Hitting those famous tracks day in, day out for eight years, he broke more bikes than he can remember. Alex moved to Morzine in the French Alps at 19 to pursue a career as a bike bum and clocked up an enormous amount of riding. 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Basically any minor impact that causes the chain to bounce and tug at the chainring will result in noise. Both bikes were fitted with e*thirteen cranks. This means its impossible to tell whether you have 21% or 39% battery remaining. It's really, really quite quiet. It is MUCH less powerful, but there is no rattle, no weird cut off, no jerky pedal action. This BT-8036 battery only needs a 4mm hex key to be released from the frame for charging separately, which is unlike Bosch that requires a special key (potentially something else to lose/forget). An E-bike with 200 watt power assist, 350 WH battery, and total weight of bike under 34 lbs. Also worth noting is that you can create two riding profiles, which you can alternate between via the menu and push-button on the display. In addition to those weve tested, youll be able to find Shimano EP8 on the Santa Cruz Bullit & Heckler, Marin Alpine Trail E2, the Commencal Meta Power, YT Decoy,Pivot Shuttle and Mondraker Dusk. Specialized is close to this. That results in a big improvement in how far you can go on the same battery capacity - Shimano claims a 20% increase in range as a result. The Shimano EP8 RS of the Orbea Rise does not present physical differences concerning the EP8 that we can see mounted on other e-mtb's. Its dimensions and weight are the same. There's 21-percent more torque (85 N/m total) in Trail and Boost modes. Well, maybe, but he also chucked 20kg dead weight in his bag to try to make things right for you. If a dynamo can be worked into the wheel hubs, you may even get near perpetual charging while the system is in use. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I rode an e bike and suffered a little bit yesterday. The ability to customize the boost is very useful, with Shimano's app you can dial it in to your preferences. 2a - Using a 5mm hex key, loosen counterclockwise and remove the preload cap. Unfortunately this clutch also produces a metallic clack whenever it rotates back and fourth. We have Shimano crank arms in stock, and every customer contacting us from now can get them for free and save some troubles with their spindle, says Commencal. What a misstep by Shimano to join Bosch in its failure. If you are disabled and need a motor on your bike in order to ride, I understand. I've had a go on ebikes and think they're fantastic and good fun. As mentioned earlier, the Bosch motor does feel punchier than Shimano EP8, with noticeably stronger support at lower cadences. A little more overrun from the EP8 motor, and even the option to tune that attribute via the E-Tube app, would be stupendous! Subscribe to Cycling Plus from just 13.50 and get a Lezyne Pocket Drive Pump, worth 29! For commercial info: info@eplus.bike. If in doubt about such components, we recommend speaking to your bicycle manufacturer.. The question of what happens with this combination is for the manufacturer of that combination to answer.. By Ralf Hauser Thanks! I despise young people buying ebikeswhat a bunch of lazy. In the lower settings, youll have to pedal really hard to get maximum support the motor. Great for climbing, on the descents the weight changes how I ride, not better or worse. it's been quite awhile and still no fix . If consumers use the recommended cranks, there should not be any issue this combination meets our strict and exacting quality standards. Can never hear it over the sound of the wind rushing by or the trail / wheels noises. Maximum Torque This allows you to limit the maximum torque, with 10 levels of adjustment from 20 Nm to 85 Nm. I swapped wheels but didn't realize I had to swap the magnet from the rotor bolts that was connected to the speed sensor in the software. Why so delicate, bro? Climbs really well and descends like a beast. Any rider who owns an ebike with an EP8 motor fitted with e*thirteen cranks currently has two options. The three EP8 bikes weve tested all have sub-440mm rear centre lengths, which is quite a bit shorter than the 471.5mm rear centre on the Giant Trance X E+ with its much bulkier Yamaha motor, for example. Regardless ebike or "normal" MTB. This also allows brands to more neatly integrate the motor into their frame designs, Canyon having done a particularly swell job with the Spectral:ON. Again, shift it down one notch at a time to get a feel for the change. While there were limited options to tweak the levels of the old E8000 and E7000 motors, EP8 takes it to the next level, allowing riders to alter the motors torque, acceleration and general on-trail character, resulting in a more personalised experience for dialling your e-MTB in for your riding style and terrain. Simply named by Specialized as the 2.2, the motor continues to offer 90Nm of peak torque, and externally it has the same mounting points and overall shape. Yeah, that's pretty poor! JavaScript is disabled. We haven't really got an opinion about durability. But yeah, different people. 2. Was thinking the same thing. What's your experience on this? You miss that obscure offering from Specialized? SpecializEd # levo SL is a great benchmark Have had a Specialized Levo & sold it due to making weird noises, so yes other manufacturers have problems too, not saying that is easy to get good reliability with new technology, but my Shimano e-8000 motor has been more reliable even is very wet weather! The investigation has led e*thirteen to produce technical service bulletin 157 (TSB), published on its website on 14 October 2021. However, you do pay for all that refinement and integration. No mention on the worldwide recall of the motor due to issues? That Shimano response was pure gold. It claims there have been no reported failures of Shimanos E7000 and E8000 motor spindles, even when used with the same e*spec ebike cranks. Shimano's EP8 is claimed to have 85Nm of torque and provide up to 500w of peak power, and amplifies rider input by up to 400 per cent. Its the Orbea Rise that achieves the most discreet integration however, with a frame that was purpose-built around the smaller EP8 motor, rather than having been retrofitted from a previous E8000 drive unit. As much as I want an emtb right now, I am waiting until the technology is perfected. Shimano's EP8, short for DU-EP800, features a higher maximum torque of 85Nm compared to the older E8000's 70Nm, topping it by an extra 21%. 5Nm doesnt sound like much on paper, but on the trail the Levos 2.2 motor is noticeably musclier than Shimano EP8, particularly at the extreme ends of the cadence spectrum. Its easy to modulate via how much pressure youre putting through the cranks and the power delivery is progressive, giving it a very natural feel as a result. Pros - extremely quiet Cons - annoying rattling noisesums up 2020! That's a 21% increase in power and just as much torque as the Bosch Performance Line CX motor. Bikes sent in for testing are usually carefully prepared by brands to pick up any assembly issues, and then are checked before testing by in-house mechanics or the testers themselves. Save 30% + G-Form Pro X3 Knee Pads when you subscribe to MBUK magazine. The downside for Bosch is that its display options leave a lot to be desired. This reduced the tendency for the front wheel to lift on really steep tech climbs. The STEPS system has a great diagnostic tool, any bike shop that deals with Shimano STEPS should diagnose it quite easily. I chose this bike because it has the EP8 and from research, seems to be the most reliable platform out there, assuming it's as reliable as the E8000. Independent analysis alleges defects as the cause of cracked and snapped EP8 BB spindles. Dont be so lazy, put in the work and suffer a little bit! We hope Shimano will join us at that table soon.. Animals and Pets Anime Art Cars and Motor Vehicles Crafts and DIY Culture, Race, and Ethnicity Ethics and Philosophy Fashion Food and Drink History Hobbies Law Learning and Education Military Movies Music Place Podcasts and Streamers Politics Programming Reading, Writing, and Literature Religion and Spirituality Science Tabletop Games . My first thoughts are that the disengagement part of the motor that allows it to pedal freely after 20 has already broken. Just got my first 29er. My Bullit died after 80 miles - same symptoms you describe. While midly annoying, it only takes a couple button presses to get back to get an 800% stabbing strength increase! In terms of improvements, EP8 is marginally lighter (300g) and smaller in volume (10%) over the old E8000 motor. And you're clearly not pedaling, just pure flow. Couldn't agree more. Ebikes are cool but not quite refined enough to jump in yet. Power delivery is immediately intuitive thanks to the new MasterMind firmware that Specialized developed specifically for the 2.2 motor, which reduces power spikes from rapid changes in crank speed and pedal pressure. Uh oh, another one E-triggered. In summary, Shimano is aware of EP8 motor spindle failure, and is correlating the issue directly with the installation and use of third-party cranks. This is part of our COMMENCAL Care program, we consider a warranty case should have no cost at all for any of our customers.. On one ride with the Canyon Spectral:ON, the range estimation initially showed 25km. Others will tell us the EP8 is a weaker motor. Click on a component to learn more. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Theres still a whirring noise from the metallic gears inside, and the pitch increases slightly at higher cadences. A bike that weighs almost half as much as the rider. These findings are the result of an independently commissioned investigation by e*thirteen, after the brand became aware of reports that EP8 spindles were failing on bikes fitted with its ebike cranks. One is a Haibike Fat-Tire with a Yamaha Drive, the second is an absolutely brilliant 40lb (including battery) DIODE from LaMere Cycles in the USA. As in, we totally forgot about it altogether. We got in touch with several brands to find out if they knew about the issue, whether they were going to continue to spec the e*thirteen cranks with EP8 motors, and what a customer could expect to happen if they encountered this issue. 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